i mean, i have a lot of thoughts on this fiscal cliff but you wanted to talk about the gun measure, and -- >> i do indeed. >> life has to go on. >> we had that provocative phrasing that it appeared the nra may be out of step with its own membership. do you really believe that? >> yes, i do, martin. frank luntz, a republican pollster polled nra members and he found that there are at least five major provisions where at least two-thirds of the membership supports even though the leadership of the nra and, of course, the gun manufacturers who pay their salaries don't necessarily support. but the -- they oppose them. one would be background checks on purchasers and gunshop employees. 40% of guns bought today don't require a background check because of the gun show loophole and gunshop employees don't require background checks. people that are on the terrorist watch list should not be able to buy a firearm for an explosive. the gao found in an investigation that 1,321 people on the terrorist watch list bought firearms or explosives and in 91% of the cases the fbi was powerless to stop them.